Sunday at Ten Forums
[left space][HOME][NEWS][DOWNLOAD][ARCHIVE][LINKS][FAQ][right space]
September 06, 2010, 08:48:23 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Strip 619: The man behind the myth behind the explanation  (Read 1081 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
WesDavid
Administrator
Double
**********
Posts: 1428



View Profile Email
« on: July 10, 2009, 07:04:30 AM »

It's interesting to me, when I do the strips myself.  Normally, Don would be the sanity check on a given idea.  But without him as the safety net, it's possible to come up with things that may not make sense.  And in this case, it wouldn't have mattered, being that Don got this one.

The comic's reference is one related to TNG, The Chain of Command Pt. 2.  To a similar extent, you can start here, as  1984 did the same thing.

It just seems silly to me to convince someone that four is five, simply because that argument can't stand on its own, in any other context.

In the strip, Picard catches Gul Madred in the logic bomb of "there are five lights."  When Madred counts them out, there are two outcomes:

 - He says "1, 2, 3, 4" and then tells Picard that there are 5 lights, which lends itself to obvious logical debate*
 - He says  something like "1, 2, 3, 5" and Picard goes into a discussion about various mathematical equations, as he tries to figure out the new "rule" that was just explained.  "What is the square root of 16?  What is 2+2?  What is 2+3?"

Now, eventually, the guy with the torture device wins.  He could say that the correct answer to the question is "buffalo" and the correct answer would be "There are buffalo lights!"  It doesn't make sense, but Gul Madred (and O'Brien from 1984) are not interested in making sense as much as they are dominating their subject.

In the comic, Picard catches Gul Madred in the aforementioned logic bomb, but offers him a Mentos as a gesture of "No hard feelings."


* Yes, I know he could count out four, turn around and say that there are five lights.  That's what he's implicitly doing in the show.  And the absurdity of the argument is exactly what Madred wants to brainwash into Picard.  I get that. It's a joke.
Logged
don
Sunday Admin
Double
********
Posts: 776



View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 07:12:11 AM »

Ah, so it's my fault then.  Good to know. Wink
Logged

"The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice."
WesDavid
Administrator
Double
**********
Posts: 1428



View Profile Email
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 10:46:25 AM »

I need you to protect me from myself!  There's a thin line between Genius and Crazy. 

It's called "Awesome."
Logged
don
Sunday Admin
Double
********
Posts: 776



View Profile Email
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 10:49:10 AM »

and all this time I thought it was called 'GEN-ZY"
Logged

"The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice."
Adoration
Verified Real Girl
Double
*
Posts: 484


Adoration198O
View Profile
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 05:19:53 PM »

He could have just said...
Logged

"There is no [Ninja] Spoon"
eneref
Int
*****
Posts: 56


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 03:24:38 AM »

Does it make me a sad and pathetic little man that I knew that episode, leaving no explanation required?
Logged
Macker
Long Int
******
Posts: 83



View Profile WWW
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 04:45:04 AM »

Now with that explanation Wes, I now know that Mentos is indeed The Freshmaker!  Cool

Thanks!
Logged

--
cshelton
A fine, upstanding lad!
Float
*
Posts: 254


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2009, 09:06:54 PM »

I just thought it was a parody of how insane all those mentos scenarios are.  Grin
Logged
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.8 | SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC